Baby is sleeping and I'm here with an ice cold bottled water.  

Yesterday I discovered that with a crazy busy year, I had completely neglected to upload,design and print photo books for the year 2019.   I was busy off and on yesterday but from about 8:00 am - 10:00 pm last night, when time allowed, I jumped online to go through photo files, upload, design and order 3 photo books.  Not only do I do them quarterly for every year, but they have to be in chronological order within the album so sometimes I find myself digging out the calendar from that month and doing other things to see when things were happening so I know where to place the photos within the album.

Let me tell you that doing this for January through September of 2019 took 14 hours and by the time I finished the last book I was so incredibly sick of it that I was in a grumpy mood (to say the least) and the last half of the last book is pure crap.  I had made numerous cross-country trips to help out family members with their relocation, house remodel and childcare and the photos from my trip(s) there, mingled with when I brought two of the littlest ones back home with me for 2 months, and then back and forth along with other family members photos/schedules and the trips, excursions... I was fit to be tied by 10:00 last night and I threw the last photos into the last 5-6 pages of the album willy-nilly.

While designing and editing photo books I was also babysitting a 4 month old, prepping dinner, discussing a big FedEx screw up with one of my brothers - who got a delivery yesterday to his name and his new address from a company he's never heard of and he's never ordered from.

I helped him determine if it was a 'brushing' scam or what happened but that was ongoing... and then a delivery mix up with another family member who ordered their normal 40 lb. bag of dog food, which, when delivered was sealed tight from the factory but was only a third full.  They weighed it on the scale it barely weighed 20 lbs.  

And then... as the baby was being picked up by his mama to go home, I came back in the house to see I had missed a call on my first cell phone, missed a call on the home phone and then, as I was getting ready to listen to the message, my cell phone rang AGAIN.

It was Mr. Coffee (remember he has my car this week as he ignored his tires until one is so bald and smooth it's ready to blow at any second and isn't driveable...  I ordered him tires due in this week).

"Hey... I need to know a trick to get into your car."

"There are no tricks.  You use the key fob."

"Well... I kind of locked the keys in the car."

"How?  I didn't even think that was possible in my car.  I've driven it for 4 1/2 years and I've never had that happen."

"I don't know.  I left the keys in it, I put something in the trunk and went to return the cart to the cart corral in the parking lot and while I was putting the cart back it locked.  I need to know how to get in."

"The only way in is with another set of keys.  Which are here at the house."

"But... you can't drive my car!?"

"Nope.  And even if I could, I wouldn't.  I'm not driving that far just to bring you keys."

(He works 50 miles away and it takes an hour to get there - assuming no traffic accidents on the interstates.)

"Well... what do I do?"

"You call AAA or the cops to do it for you."


"Call AAA.  I pay our membership every year, we might as well get something out of it."

They took an hour to get to him... but they did it.

In the meantime I was on computer uploading, organizing, editing and ordering those stinking photo books.



If you plan to buy something for 'today', for a birthday, for your home, a new baby, event, clothing; even just get some coffee or groceries, please consider going there through my link to get there? Thanks so much! Amazon by Coffee Talking

Yesterday morning I had a sudden thought that I didn't remember the last time I had uploaded our family photos to make a photo album. 

Gone are the days where I order 300 photos printed and put them in an album; but I do try to make quarterly printed photo albums online. This works out to 4 a year; January - March, April - June, etc.  I've always been on schedule (as per my personality) but yesterday morning I realized, I couldn't recall if I had done any this year.

I logged into one of the 3 companies I typically would order from.  The only thing I saw was an album I had started but only finished 2 pages of and it was... January - March of 2019.  Surely that can't be right!?

But then reality hit me smack in the face.  

Starting in January last year I was the wedding planner, print designer, florist, baker and cake-decorator for a big wedding in addition to being the mother-of-the-bride and all that entailed.  In addition, I was out of town (out of state actually) about 60% of the time helping with childcare, hospitalizations of sick children, house remodels and more.  

After the wedding I was back to helping out of state again to rush through the rest of the whole-house remodel as they found out they were being transferred across the country. 

Blah blah blah.  Then I brought two Littles home with me to stay while their Daddy was the new job, Mama was working full time, staying on schedule with the preschooler and his school as well as finishing their whole-house remodel and putting their house on the market to sell!

Ok.  In November the babies got to go back to Mama - and they all got to go live in their new house and new state with Daddy.  The house sold.  I came home and... got sick.

We didn't know what it was at the time but I was sick all through December.  Mr. Coffee was about 10 days 'behind' me but got it too.  There was Thanksgiving and Christmas and then... it was January!

We got 'better' finally in January - by the first week or so.   And then came moving family members into their new house, planning and hosting baby showers and well - Covid... quarantines, shopping for two families as the 'expecting' family completely quarantined 100% and didn't leave the house except for doctor's appointments.

Well, no wonder I didn't find time to make photo albums.

And the rest of the story will have to wait as a family member, her dog and her baby just pulled in my drive............

If you enjoy visiting Just the Coffee Talking, please consider using this affiliate link if you are planning to shop for anything (seriously, anything!) at Amazon.

If you plan to buy something for 'today', for a birthday, for your home, a new baby, event, clothing; even just get some coffee or groceries, please consider going there through my link to get there? Thanks so much! Amazon by Coffee Talking






AHA Black Cherry and Coffee Sparkling Water... and Bald Tires

Fourth (?) cup of coffee on a rainy morning. Hello Coffee Friends!

This week I don't have a car... well, I do but Mr. Coffee is using it.  Why?  Because he neglected to look at his tires for, well, honestly I don't know how long, but it was long enough to have one of them be so completely bald and smooth that I have never in my entire life seen one as smooth and bold as it.

Scary bald.  Completely, utterly smooth.

For the past ten years or so I've taken care of his tires.  Typically when he goes away on a business trip I order him tires and take his car to get them installed.  I also have to hound him a bit to take his car in to have his oil changed.  I got tires on his car last time and told him to keep an eye on them himself this time.  He didn't pay any attention though until his tire light came on last week (which he ignored) and this weekend when we were cleaning out the garage, he happened to notice his back tire...  

It's bad enough that it even scared him - which is saying something.  So he immediately asked me if I would order him new tires.  

So I did... but it's so incredibly ready to blow that I offered him my car to go to work on Monday and then I cleared the way for him to use my car this week until the tires come in and they call me to make an appointment for the install.  

I feel a little stranded not having access to a car this week... LOL.  



This weekend I saw a new-to-me sparkling water.  It  said it was Black Cherry and Coffee so how could it not catch my eye, right? 

It's by Aha, made by Coca-cola and if you are looking for a coffee and black cherry flavored water... this is not it.

Apparently it's 'black cherry' with a tiny bit of caffeine added... not coffee, not coffee flavored.  Not even a hint.  And if you are hoping for a kick of caffeine, this isn't it either.  It's got the equivalent of just 1/3 a cup of coffee - which is very, very little. 

If you like black cherry sparkling water and don't mind a tiny bit of caffeine, this may be for you, but it's really nothing to write home about if you were actually hoping for a jolt of caffeine, or the taste of coffee! 

<a target="_blank"  href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084SBL2VL/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B084SBL2VL&linkCode=as2&tag=justthecoffee-20&linkId=e76bb8743d91cbc8fb3e8b7a39d8dcf3"><img border="0" src="//ws-na.amazon-adsystem.com/widgets/q?_encoding=UTF8&MarketPlace=US&ASIN=B084SBL2VL&ServiceVersion=20070822&ID=AsinImage&WS=1&Format=_SL250_&tag=justthecoffee-20" ></a><img src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=justthecoffee-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B084SBL2VL" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />  <a target="_blank" href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B084SBL2VL/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=9325&creativeASIN=B084SBL2VL&linkCode=as2&tag=justthecoffee-20&linkId=c0425c72df89f15523f3367283bbf50c">Aha Sparkling Water (Black Cherry + Coffee), 12 Fl Oz (Pack Of 8)</a><img src="//ir-na.amazon-adsystem.com/e/ir?t=justthecoffee-20&l=am2&o=1&a=B084SBL2VL" width="1" height="1" border="0" alt="" style="border:none !important; margin:0px !important;" />


Seriously?  So, a couple weeks ago I vented a little about the FedEx driver that left my large package/box wide OPEN (as in BOTH FLAPS UP AND OPEN) in the STREET next to my mailbox, at 8:45 pm.   It was not my regular (awesome) driver who was contracted by FedEx last April when all the regular FedEx employees were so horrible and screwed everything up so badly that they were all taken off routes and contracted outside drivers were hired.  He was and is so awesome, he's still driving for them.  But he gets two days off a week obviously, and the driver filling in for him two weeks ago was the screw-up.

 Today we had a delivery scheduled and I kept my eye out for them all day.

More so, after the idiot driver 2 weeks ago, I made sure two (2) of our security cameras show our mailbox and driveway so I could catch them trying it again.

After no deliveries all day, my 'status' changed to "PENDING" which was... interesting.  So I figured it got late and they were rescheduling for tomorrow.  Which is fine.

It's pitch black outside but I'm in the office at the front of the house where my view is literally our driveway, front yard and mailbox.

No one came to our home yet at 7:26 I got a text saying my packages had been delivered.

Oh no they had not!  And I knew no one had even stopped at the mailbox in the street either.

But to be sure, I went outside and checked both doors of the house as well as all over the driveway and walked down to the street to check there.  Nothing.

I went through the hassle of getting a hold of FedEx - hoping we could get a hold of the driver to ask him WHERE he delivered the boxes as it was NOT my house at 7:26 as he scanned them.

They had me post an incident report to track the packages... and as we hung up, a light caught my eye outside.  A vehicle was parked in the street in front of my house and then as I looked, it drove off.

I checked the security cameras and sure enough, as I was on the phone with FedEx, someone delivered them and left them in the street by the mailbox (again) in the dark, ready to be stolen by any passers-by.

But most of all?  HE/SHE WAS A LIAR PANTS. 

The scanned the packages as delivered at 7:26.  I have them on my security camera as delivering them about 20 minutes later - as I was on the phone.

But... I have them at least.  Thank goodness I sign up for TEXT ALERTS or I never would have known they were 1)  Missing and 2) Later delivered and left in the street where I had to go searching for them before they were stolen during the night.


Yes we absolutely vaccinate... but I cringe and pray each time.

One of our little family members has his second round of vaccinations this morning.  In about 10 minutes actually. And I hate hate hate hate this.  I feel like you always play Russian Roulette with vaccinations now.  Especially in little baby boy children - because of the higher rate of autism, but especially in boys.   

I know people are really ugly and militant when it comes to this topic and it's not one I am going to delve into deeply here but I'm a research geek and when you truly start to research and not just accept the spoon-fed script, there are just some really really red flags all over the place!  But there are billions upon billions upon billions of money, big names, cushy CEO jobs, criss-crossing of ethics with people tied to the pharmaceutical companies that are either on or paying for the so-called studies (and serve on the CDC board) and then even more money invested in keeping the public believing 'there is no correlation between autism rates and vaccinations'.  Even though there is.  Sigh.  And the sheer number of vaccines given at one time at the ages we are giving them is terrifying.  

No I'm NOT anti-vaccination.  But in researching, I've become a huge supporter of a slower, and more spaced out vaccination schedule.  

(For the record I was clueless and when our youngest child had a reaction at age 15 months to her vaccinations I stupidly thought the doctor's office and the government WANTED TO KNOW - so I wanted to fill out the official form letting them know.  WRONG.  From the nurse to the doctor I was pushed not to say anything, not to fill out a form, and they tried to pull reasons out of the air for her reactions.  I was confused and so innocent in how BIG of an issue this is and was that I had no idea that by reporting, you were pushing against some big, big people and even bigger money.  But I finally got my hands on the forms and then found it made it even more difficult.  Every step of the way was difficult and yes, I just threw the forms out and gave up because our issue was small; I just stupidly thought they really DID want to track problems with infant vaccinations.  They don't.)

The ingredients in most of the vaccinations have changed now, although one still has mercury in it but the sheer NUMBER of vaccinations given at one time in little bodies that weigh as much as a sack of flour is mind-boggling and they keep adding more!  Officially on paper, they can give your newborn baby most of those shots (for 5-7 diseases at ONE TIME) within 4 weeks of each other.  That's a LOT for your little 12 pound baby body to handle.

I don't know 'too' many doctors but I personally know of TWO pediatricians who have QUIT pediatric practice because they felt SO STRONGLY they were lying to parents and giving harmful vaccinations and a harmful vaccination schedule. TWO. 

One doesn't talk about it much and is more quiet, but will shake his head and purse his lips together in frustration;  but the other is quite vocal about it.  She is very, very upset at the vaccinations and the vaccination schedule as it is now (verses how much more careful we were about the vaccinations and the schedule even 15-20 years ago.)

So yes...  as more babies are born into our family and our pill-popping, prescription taking society becomes numb to the sheer number of chemicals, poisons and such we put into our body - the number of vaccinations given at once and the too-young ages are they doing it scare the living daylights out of me.  Terrifying me each time a loved little baby/toddler in our extended family goes for yet another round.

As the number of vaccinations at such young ages rises, so do the rates for Autism.  But only the honest and bold voices will say it.  The rest are too invested as careers and big money speaks louder than the cries of the babies and their families.

Yes we absolutely vaccinate... but I cringe and pray each time.

One in 35 children in New Jersey was diagnosed with autism by their 4th birthday, according to the study published by the federal Centers for Disease Control on Thursday. 

Those children were more likely to have attracted the attention of pediatricians and early-childhood educators because of moderate to severe symptoms of autism. Still more children are diagnosed with autism when they enter public schools. 

The relentless climb in autism rates — from 1% of children born in 1992 to 3% of children born in 2010 — has shown no signs of reaching a plateau, said Walter Zahorodny, an associate professor at Rutgers New Jersey Medical School who directed the New Jersey portion of the study. 

"The explosive rate of autism is impossible to ignore," he said.

"There's no letup," he said. "I really don't understand why the rate is going up in this way." 

Researchers can’t explain why autism rates have increased in New Jersey and elsewhere. 

Contributing factors include genetic mutations and birth-related risks, such as being born prematurely, as one of a multiple birth, to a mother who was ill during pregnancy or to parents who are older than 30. But the greatest influences appear to be unknown environmental factors, Zahorodny said. 

Among 4-year-olds, the rate climbed 43 percent in just four years, from 2010 to 2014, he said. 

One in 23 4-year-old boys in New Jersey is now diagnosed with autism.


- https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/health/2019/04/11/new-jersey-preschoolers-have-highest-autism-rates-ever-us/3438402002/


Coffee Talking this afternoon not over coffee, but a White Claw... watermelon flavor, which I don't completely care for, so it has a tiny little dash of tangerine orange Mio flavor drop in it.

I got out of the house today.

I didn't go far, I didn't do much... but it was needed and it was fabulous.  

There aren't too many activities I actually enjoy, but traveling, road trips, camping and hiking are some of them - which I've not been able to do for so long.   Today I was all set to help clean out, go through and organize boxes in the garage but I was in a pissy place and needed to get out of this house.  Luckily I found a spot not too far away so without overthinking it, I just informed my husband I was going to 'walk' and he was welcome to come with... or not... but i had to get out of this house.   :)

And I did.


I threw a new shirt in the car for after I was done so I could multi-task and stop to grocery shop on the way home. 

The grocery store I went to is a bit more... um... uptight (?) than my normal Walmart or Sam's Club grocery trips.  This store is more expensive and tends to cater to a different type of shopper due to the higher prices, the items they carry, and where it's located.  

But OH MY GOODNESS these people shopping today had a few that drove me bonkers about the whole COVID-19 thing.  

I was looking at juice, which is in the first 'aisle' of the store - that isn't even an aisle since it's first.  It's next to the wide open space where the fruits and vegetables are.  There was a cooler with specialty imported cheeses right behind me, but because it wasn't a legit 'aisle' it was like, 6 feet wide.  And I saw a woman stop to my left, in my peripheral vision.  And she didn't move - which is fine, I thought she was looking at juices too.  So I kept reading labels and she was still there.  I looked up and made eye contact briefly, and wondered why she wasn't moving and just standing there.  I looked up again and she is staring at me... I said, "Are you waiting to go around me?"  as I motioned to the WIDE empty space behind me.  "YES I AM!"  she replied tersely. 

This made NO SENSE but I stepped directly back about 3 steps from where I was.... and she grumpily pushed her cart and went past me.  

I said (loud enough for her to hear...)  Okaaaaay... that was... weird.

How did me moving 3 steps DIRECTLY BACK from where I was help her keep 'social distancing' in ANY way shape or form?  It didn't.  As a matter of fact she's an idiot because I previously had my BACK to her.  She had about 4 feet behind me to walk past.   I stepped backwards so she passed in FRONT of me.  She would have (in theory) been safer to pass BEHIND ME.

Stupid twit.

I had two more absolutely ridiculous people later in the store, but for the most part, it was normal people.  One wouldn't look at the cheese which was about 4 feet down from where I was standing, until I literally moved over about 8 inches to my left.  Basically - not really moving at all - but in her mind it was 'safe' now and she stepped forward to look at her cheese.

WTF people?

I seriously doubt that 8 inches made any difference but... whatever.  LOL.

I guess it made them feel better?














If there are certain sounds that make me instantly irritable, clench my teeth and want to throat punch someone, it's hearing the non-stop lip smacking, licking, stomach squelching noises

The house was silent, I'm on my second cup of coffee.  I had checked emails and a couple accounts and sites I always check first thing.  I decided since the dogs were still being awesome and laying/sleeping quietly next to me in their beds and I could RELAX and just sip coffee and think, I'd open up a browser window and finally, type out a 'real' Coffee Talking post.

As I typed out the first words; "The house is quiet, Mr. Coffee is sleeping and the dog-----  that's as far as I got before my stupid ADHD dog suddenly sprung up and started her click click nail walk and slop slop mouth smacking behind me. SERIOUSLY!???

So much for being relaxed and quiet.  

Noise makes me tense up - and dog mouth smacking drives me crazy.  And since they are now 'awake' for the morning, their stomachs are now squelching (ready for breakfast soon) which is another sound I absolutely abhor!    If there are certain sounds that make me instantly irritable, clench my teeth and want to throat punch someone, it's hearing the non-stop lip smacking, licking, stomach squelching noises when I really, really want to just sit and breathe and mediate in silence over a mug of hot coffee in my hands.

The offending dog realized I was not going to jump up and start the day, and has now laid back down quietly so we'll see if I can manage to get a post out... but like usual, it's going to be random, typed quickly and NOT AT ALL like the well thought out and typed out posts I always intend when I come into the office. 


No.  The moment is gone.

And now I just keep trying to 'rush' because I know they are waiting to go out, eat breakfast and start the day so I can't relax at all and am finding myself thinking 'hurry hurry!' Gah.


Someone is celebrating her birthday today (and somebody - anybody? - should really tell her mother since her Mom thought it was two days ago... ha ha).  

Yes that is something MY mother would do, but no, it's not mine and it's not my birthday.  But happy birthday to you - you know who you are - and lots of smiles and hugs to you from across the miles!


Today I didn't do anything that I planned to do... but I did get some ground cover weed killer down in needed parts of the yard/parking area. I did power wash the back windows of the house.  I did make some prepped food items for future meals and I did just grill a bunch of various chicken for dinner later today.  

When it comes to the news and anything to do with politics, I'm mostly 98% ignoring it all right now as I mentally and emotionally just need to shut out all that negativity for a bit.  But I saw something today I thought I'd share as it says a lot about the personality of Amy Barrett. 

I thought I'd have more time to chat but now Mr. Coffee has finished what he was doing and it's time to chat with him... sorry.  Husbands trump cyber-space.  ;)

So, how do I like my new Cuisinart SS-10P1 Coffemaker? I LOVE IT!


I posted a few days ago that I had replaced yet another broken Keurig - this time I went with the Cuisinart that I've looked and considered in the past but it was always easier to pick up a Keurig as they saturate the market.  

Our last kitchen coffee maker purchase was supposed to be 'anything but a Keurig' but I caved.  However, this time, I did NOT cave.  Mostly because now that shelves are being restocked and stores are back open (COVID-19 quarantines) I found my local store had plenty of them in stock - as well as being easy to find on the internet. So it was quick and easy to buy the Cuisinart now.

(Although things change rapidly for listings on Amazon, as of this morning's post they not only have them available, but they are offering $13.96 off with an automatic coupon.  I don't know how long it will be listed, but even at the regular $139 price, it's worth it and comparable to Keurig.)


My initial PRO AND CON list remains the same now that I've been using it.

I love the clock setting and I love having the programmable feature of 'off' and 'on' times.  I have mine programmed to turn on at 5:am and off at 9:pm.  

I really really love the programmable setting for my favorite brew size and temperature.  I like it HOT and I normally brew at 6 oz.  I do not have to choose this each time - it's automatically set to brew X-hot and 6 oz.  However, if I want to change the size or temp I just hit the button and it's done.  Keurig is auto set at 8 oz. and I have to change it for every cup.  I love this feature as I'm the one who primarily uses this machine 99.999% of the time.

The flavor is good and I wonder if in part, that's because it brews just a little bit slower than shooting the water down through the k-cup quickly.  Not much longer, but it take maybe 30 seconds longer to brew than a Keurig?  I've not timed it and don't care to.  

The only CON I've found so far isn't really a CON - it's just a fact.  It is louder than my other coffee brewers but it's not really an issue.  

I'm happy with it and I love the look as well.  A little more classy than the cheesy all-plastic cheap look that Keurig now sports on most all their models.   I've been a Keurig owner since 2005 and their quality and look has gotten progressively cheaper through the years.  Now, every bit of it is cheap plastic - and you can tell both in look and feel.

I'm very pleased with our Cuisinart so far, and I have another family member who saw mine this week and remarked how much she loved it better than her Keurig and plans to purchase one as well.  IF you are in the market for a single-serve k-cup brewer, I have no qualms about recommending this one except maybe if you are brewing in a super quiet household in the early morning, with a baby sleeping nearby and the sound of a machine brewing would wake them.  *wink*  


Cuisinart SS-10P1 Premium Single-Serve Coffeemaker - Silver 








Just... some random news links.

Police raid in Vietnam finds more than 300,000 used condoms being packed for resale

FBI investigates military absentee ballots found in garbage; majority cast vote for Trump

Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton announced four arrests Thursday on dozens of felony charges in connection with an alleged vote harvesting scheme during the 2018 Democratic primary elections in Gregg County.

UN Forced To Admit Gates-Funded Vaccine Is Causing Polio Outbreak In Africa

 After spending some $16 billion over 30 years to eradicate polio, international health bodies have ‘accidentally’ reintroduced the disease to in Pakistan, Afghanistan, and also Iran, as the central Asia region was hit by a virulent strain of polio spawned by the corporate pharmaceutical vaccine distributed there. Also, in 2019, the government of Ethiopia ordered the destruction of 57,000 vials of type 2 oral polio vaccine (mOPV2) following a similar outbreak of vaccine-induced polio.

It’s important to note that the oral polio vaccine being pushed on to the African population by the Global Polio Eradication Initiative (GPEI), a consortium which is supported and funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation.


Woman charged after 5-year-old boy shot in the head while riding bike in his yard

The boy’s father, Austin Hinnant, said Sessoms, seemingly out of nowhere, crept up on Cannon, pointed a gun at the child’s head, and pulled the trigger. Neighbors witnessed it while Austin Hinnant, still inside his home, heard a single gunshot.


Former Marine commits suicide after the mob targets him

A Nebraska bar owner, Jake Gardner, was inside his bar when the windows were shattered by “peaceful protesters.”

Gardner, a former Marine who served in Iraq, went outside to try to diffuse the situation. He saw his father (a man in his 60s) shoved violently to the ground by peaceful protestors. But still, Gardner maintained his composure.

A video then shows that Gardner tried backing away from three men when they attacked him.

Gardner ends up on the ground, with an attacker on top of him. Gardner fired his weapon, and the attacker died.

The county prosecutor reviewed the video evidence and confirmed that Gardner acted properly and in self defense. The video confirms this. And he stated that he would NOT charge Gardner.

But the mob was not willing to accept this outcome. So they surrounded the courthouse and protested… at which point the Grand Jury caved and decided to charge Gardner with manslaughter.

This sadly appeared to put Gardner over the edge. And he took his own life last week.









Mom left kids in the van to get muffins. Then came a social worker and strip searches.


On a mild day in March 2017, Elizabethtown police officers warned Holly Curry about leaving her six young children unattended in the family’s van outside Cobbler’s Cafe, where she had briefly stopped for coffee and muffins on the way to youth karate class.

They also reported her to the local office of the Kentucky Cabinet for Health and Family Services.

The next day, despite Curry’s tearful, repeated protests, social service worker Jeanetta Childress and Hardin County sheriff’s Deputy Michael Furnish entered her home to investigate the family for possible child abuse and neglect.

Childress and Furnish warned Curry about possibly taking the children from their home and putting them in state custody, according to court records. Next, the kids were strip searched for signs of injury. The two oldest children privately were questioned in a bedroom about their mother’s mental state.

After Childress finally concluded the children were safe — the Curry family previously had a clean record, she acknowledged — she said, “We’re just going to consider this an oopsy daisy.”

The Curry family wasn’t so quick to drop the matter. They filed a civil rights lawsuit in U.S. District Court in Louisville against Childress, Furnish and their employers.

Last week, Judge Justin Walker handed down a fiery opinion denouncing the government’s actions in the Curry home and clearing the case for trial.

The state health cabinet and the Hardin County sheriff’s office have been dismissed as defendants. But Walker stripped the social worker and deputy of the legal shield that public officials ordinarily enjoy through “qualified immunity,” because, he wrote, what they did was “so clearly unconstitutional.”

“To hold otherwise would permit social workers to strip search children as a matter of course in every investigation,” wrote Walker, who recently was elevated from the district court in Louisville to a high-profile seat on the U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. 

“Incredibly, Childress repeatedly testified that she believed she should ‘automatically’ strip search any child who was four or under.”

The Fourth Amendment to the U.S. Constitution protects Americans from unreasonable searches and seizures, particularly in their homes, he wrote in his Aug. 18 order and opinion.

“Act One: An ‘attentive and loving’ mother gets muffins for her children,” Walker wrote in his summary of the episode. “Act Two: There’s a knock on her door and a threat by the government to take away her children. Act Three: Her children are strip searched without cause.”

“America’s founding generation may never have imagined a Cabinet for Health and Family Services. But they knew their fair share of unwelcome constables. And they added a Fourth Amendment to our Constitution to protect against this three-act tragedy,” Walker wrote.

Childress directed questions from the Herald-Leader to an attorney at the Cabinet for Health and Family Services, who did not respond to requests for comment. A cabinet spokeswoman also did not respond; nor did the Hardin County sheriff’s office or its attorney.

The Home School Legal Defense Association, which represents the Curry family in court, said Walker’s ruling is significant because “here we have a federal judge saying this sort of behavior is clearly unconstitutional.”

“It’s not as uncommon as you would think — or as you would hope — for a CPS investigator to want to get into the home, no matter what. They want to get into the home to perform what they call body checks, or what we call strip searches,” said James Mason, an attorney with the Home School Legal Defense Association.

“They’re not accustomed to being told ‘No,’” Mason said. “When they are told no, going to get a police officer is very common, and they will then work to overcome the family’s resistance to entry.”

This is only the latest legal setback for the Cabinet for Health and Family Services. Another U.S. District Court judge, William O. Bertelsman, has stripped the cabinet’s social workers and supervisors of their qualified immunity in two separate lawsuits out of Northern Kentucky over the past year.

In one case, a social worker extensively investigated a family and threatened to take away their newborn baby after the mother ate bagel chips with poppy seeds and falsely tested positive for opiate use. In the other, a social worker spent three months investigating a single mother for abuse, denying her care and control of her daughter, because of a bruise on the girl’s backside caused by the bite of a 3-year-old daycare playmate.

“While the state certainly has an interest in preventing child abuse, that interest does not permit social workers to circumvent the procedural protections afforded by state law, (such as) reasonable cause requirements and mandated hearings,” Bertlesman wrote in his opinion and order concerning the backside bruise case. “A reasonable jury could thus find that defendants’ conduct violated a clearly established procedural right.”

The U.S. 6th Circuit Court of Appeals in June struck down part of Bertelsman’s qualified immunity decision in the poppy seed case, but it upheld another part, returning the case to him to continue with the pretrial phase.

‘Get the police’

In her deposition in the lawsuit, Curry said she stopped for muffins at Cobbler’s Cafe as a sweet bribe to pacify her children on their way to karate practice. (There were six kids, ages 1 to 6, with the youngest being two sets of twins.) She left them in the van outside the cafe for five to 10 minutes with the doors locked and the engine and fan running. The temperature that morning was in the 60s.

She emerged with muffins to find several police officers standing next to her van. Elizabethtown police Officer Matt McMillen sternly warned Curry that children younger than 8 should not be left unattended. Then he sent her on her way to karate.

But McMillen also decided to cite Curry for neglect. He filed a JC-3 form, a standard abuse and neglect report, with the social workers at the Elizabethtown office of the Kentucky Department for Community Based Services.

In hindsight, McMillen said in his own deposition in the lawsuit, he regrets that.

“If done again today, I would not cite her,” the officer said.

However, once McMillen filed his report, the system swung into action. The case was assigned to Childress, who drove to the Curry home the following afternoon.

Josiah Curry, Holly’s husband, was a U.S. Army major and an attorney with the Judge Advocate General’s Corps. He was out of town on business. So Holly was alone with the kids when Childress knocked on the front door and announced that she was investigating a possible case of child abuse or neglect based on the van incident.

In her deposition, Curry said Childress tried to walk right into the home, but Curry closed the door on her.

“Childress was combative. Holly told her that she could not enter without a warrant,” Curry’s lawyers wrote in one court filing. “Childress replied that she had to get in the home to see the kids, then turned around and said, ‘I’ll have to go get the police then.’”

According to court records and her own deposition, Childress next met with Furnish, the deputy, at the Hardin County sheriff’s office. She wanted a police escort.

“I told (Furnish) that I was having a hard time getting in the – the home and I just really needed in there to, you know, interview the kids and, you know, see what – what was up,” Childress said.

It’s standard procedure for social workers to call in law enforcement if parents stop them at the door, Childress said.

“If people don’t want you in their home, there could be a safety concern,” Childress testified. “That’s the procedure that you go through, you go get the police.”

Furnish told attorneys in his deposition that in his two years with the sheriff’s office, he could recall assisting social workers “maybe 40 to 50 times,” including two or three previous home visits with Childress.

Back at the family’s front door, now standing alongside a deputy, Childress said she urged Curry to do this “the easy way.” The hard way could mean losing her children, the officials warned. They explained that they could get an emergency court order to let them place the kids in state custody.

“There was — I would not call it conversation — at the point after Officer Furnish said, ‘We’ll come back and take all six of your children,’ in unison, Ms. Childress and Officer Furnish began yelling louder and louder, “What’s it gonna be? What’s it gonna be? What’s it gonna be?’” Curry said.

“And I eventually raised my left hand and started crying and said, ‘Fine, we can do this,’” she said.

The small group entered the house.

In his order allowing the case to proceed to trial, Walker said the evidence indicates that Curry did not voluntarily consent for the officials to enter her home, Rather, he said, Childress and Furnish bullied their way in.

“First, they knew the Currys had no history with social services,” the judge wrote. “And second, they knew the Curry children had been utterly unharmed while waiting in their climate-controlled car for the time it took Holly to run in a coffee shop.”

“In that situation, no reasonable officer or social worker would think she could get an ex parte custody order. And clearly established law prohibited Childress and Furnish’s conduct,” Walker wrote. “Under these facts, a jury could find that Holly’s consent was coerced.”

Strip searching kids

Once inside the house, Childress wanted to examine the children for signs of harm.

Social workers at the Cabinet for Health and Family Services refer to these exams as TEN-4 checks, with the TEN standing for “torso, ears and neck.” The idea is to look for bruises, burns or other injuries in places that children — especially very young children — typically would not hurt themselves through ordinary childhood accidents.

In her deposition, Childress testified that it’s standard procedure to perform TEN-4 checks on children age 4 and younger. She said she chose to also examine the two older children, who were 5 and 6, because she believed that Curry was not being truthful with her about the family’s well-being.

Writing in a court motion, Curry’s lawyers said that Childress “proceeded to strip search the children. Starting with the younger children, she pulled up their pant legs to look at their calves, then unbuttoned their pants, undid the buttons on their onesies, pulled them up to view their chests, stomachs and abdomen area, then undid their diapers and put her fingers down and looked inside.”

For the older children who wore underwear, Childress pulled it aside, looked inside and put her hands down their underwear, the lawyers wrote.

“Deputy Furnish was present while all six children were strip searched,” Curry’s lawyers wrote.

“For five of the six searches, he was within two to three feet of the children, within eyesight of Holly’s oldest daughter and at eye level with the infants. He spoke to the children several times and was watching as Investigator Childress was taking off their clothes and checking their private parts,” the lawyers wrote.

Childress walked the oldest child, a 6-year-old girl, down the hall to a bedroom and took notes while asking her questions about her mother. The girl said her mother was “stressed” and punished the children when they did wrong by taking “stuff” away. Next, she questioned the oldest boy, age 5, who said Curry had previously left the kids in the van unattended.

“He just said that Mom doesn’t want to — doesn’t want to have to fool with them, because they stress her out,” Childress recalled in her deposition. “She didn’t want them to ask for stuff, so that’s why she didn’t take them in.”

The judge wrote in his order last week that the social worker and deputy had no right to strip search the children in violation of their “fundamental dignity.”

“Here, Childress lacked even a shadow of probable cause that the Currys physically abused their children,” the judge wrote.

“No one had ever reported physical abuse. There was no evidence of it. Nothing about their house indicated they lived in dangerous conditions. The children didn’t tell Childress anything that pointed to ‘a substantial chance’ of physical abuse,” he wrote. “In fact, the two oldest children told Childress that their parents didn’t even use corporal punishment.”

Won’t accept ‘No’

Later, Childress did more research, such as interviewing the family babysitter, who had only good things to say about Josiah and Holly Curry. Finally, 43 days after her visit to the house, she called Josiah Curry to give him the all clear. The van incident notwithstanding, there was no evidence of abuse or neglect in the household.

However, Childress ominously added, “If we ever get a call against your family again, bad things will happen to you and we’ll take your children,” according to the Currys’ attorneys.

The episode left sore feelings.

The children used to be “very enthusiastic about police officers,” but not anymore, Holly Curry said in her lawsuit. When the kids see police in a public place these days, they ask to leave. The oldest daughter burst into tears in a grocery store when she saw a uniformed police officer, Holly Curry said.

The Curry family sued in December 2017, alleging violation of their constitutional rights. Apart from financial damages, they asked for a permanent injunction preventing the cabinet from continuing with the tactics used by Childress and Furnish. They also wanted the cabinet to destroy all records created during Childress’ investigation.

“No such investigation should ever have taken place,” the Currys said in their suit.

Today the family lives in another state, following Josiah Curry’s routine Army reassignment.

Mason, of the Home School Legal Defense Association, said his group hears complaints from families around the country who have been targeted by social workers assuming their guilt. As Walker explained in his ruling, there must be probable cause that a child is in imminent danger to justify the aggressive approach used in this case, he said.

“A DCBS investigator, once they start an investigation, they don’t want to be accused of leaving a child in a bad situation. So the investigators are trying to make sure that doesn’t happen,” Mason said.

“However, this sort of thing happens all too often,” he added. “Some of the people I represent, people like Holly Curry, haven’t done anything wrong and they have nothing to hide, but they are willing to say ‘No’ at the front door. When that happens, the DCBS investigators are unwilling to take ‘No’ for an answer.”

Read more here: https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article245235585.html#storylink=cpy

 - source:  https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article245235585.html

Michelle Obama says "Don't listen to people who say... your vote will get lost" and on the same page of the news: WISCONSIN AUTHORITIES INVESTIGATE TRAYS OF MAIL, ABSENTEE BALLOTS FOUND IN DITCH





And... I have another new coffee maker - the Cuisinart single serve coffee maker - No Keurig this time!


This morning I finally had had enough.  You should not have to have anxiety when you want to brew a cup of coffee.  

As regular readers know, my latest Keurig liked to stop brewing after it made my cup of coffee, then wait a few seconds and as soon as I turn away, it would start to spew out more coffee and/or water (depending if the k-cup pod was still in it).  It would gladly give me another 12 ounces even if I opened the pod-holder - even if I physically removed the water reservoir!  I could hit the "POWER" button quickly to stop the flow but the second the power button was turned back on, it would finish peeing coffee/water all over the counter. 

This morning I removed the water reservoir, hit the power button and unplugged it.  I waited for the coffee to stop pouring out and then I left the house for about an hour.  Came home, decided to brew another cup.  When I plugged the machine back in (after being unplugged for an hour) it continued to finish giving me that 12 ounces it wanted so badly to give me this morning.

For the record, I brew all my coffee at 6 oz.  

It gives me my 6 oz. and stops.  Then starts up again a few seconds later with a brand new 12 oz. without me ever touching buttons.

Remember when I was researching coffee makers a couple months ago?  And I had two in mind, but because it was during COVID and there were a lot of shortages on appliances and other items worldwide, it was 'easy' to find Keurig (since they saturate the market) so I went with a Keurig.

Well... there are plenty of Cuisinarts available now!!!  I found them online at Amazon as well but didn't want to wait a couple days for delivery so I checked my local Bed, Bath & Beyond, saw they had them in stock and off to the store I went this morning!  I was there when they opened, I bought my coffee maker and was home and brewing my first cup within 30 minutes of purchase.


Pretty easy set-up. It has a couple things I LOVE that Keurig didn't offer - like the clock feature and the ability to program it 'on' and 'off'.  You can also program it to remember your favorite brewing size and heat setting so X-tra hot and 6 oz. is given to me automatically without me having to change it every morning like I did on Keurig.

I'm SO HAPPY I decided to go with Cuisinart this time.  

Cuisinart Single-Serve Coffeemaker   

Product Description

Choose 4, 6, 8, 10 or 12-ounce serving sizes choose the ideal temperature enjoy coffee, tea, soup, or cocoa This brewer is K-Cup compatible and also includes a HomeBarista Reusable Filter Cup for your favorite brew. The drip tray pulls out to accommodate travel mugs and the 72-ounce water reservoir eliminates the need for frequent refills!
Compatible with any brand of single cup pod including Keurig K-Cup pods and equipped with the HomeBarista™ Reusable Filter Cup, this coffeemaker makes it easier than ever
for consumers to enjoy a wide array of hot beverages. The unit has five
different cup-size settings (ranging from 4 ounces to 12 ounces), and an
adjustable brewing temperature to ensure desired temperatures are reached. In
addition to coffee, a hot water button can be used to prepare soup, tea, hot
cocoa, and more, and the unit is equipped with a rinse function for easy
cleaning. Features: K-Cup compatible brewer makes one cup at a time|5 beverage
sizes: 4–12 oz.|Removable 72-ounce water reservoir|Hot water button lets you
enjoy instant coffee soup tea and hot cocoa|Rinse feature instantly cleans the
inside of the brew chamber|Fully programmable with a full spectrum of features
including Auto On/Off and adjustable temperature control|Backlit blue LCD
displays settings|Removable drip tray for travel mugs|Includes HomeBarista™
Reusable Filter Cup for ground coffee or tea. |Charcoal water filter. Limited
3-year warranty. BPA free




Cuisinart Single-Serve Coffeemaker Coffeemaker



Planned Parenthood’s Youth Partner Pushes Birth Control Experiments on 11-Year-Old Girls


An organization called Advocates for Youth (AFY), which appears to act as the youth arm of Planned Parenthood, recently sent a mass email with this in the subject line: “Know anyone ages 11-15 to join this study?”

The email, sent by AFY's Free the Pill Youth Campaign Manager Becca Thimmesch, links three times to the study. The study page suggests that young girls can obtain birth control pills without a prescription and potentially without their parent’s consent. Both the email and site say girls who participate in the study can earn $75.

This is wrong on so many levels. While the study does not actually pay 11-year-olds directly to have sex, it holds out a $75 carrot to very young girls that could entice them to make a decision to become sexually active. 

In every U.S. state, children ages 11-15 cannot legally consent to sex, and in many parts of the U.S., 11-year-old children cannot legally obtain contraceptives without parental permission.

Despite this, the study asks, “who will find out?” and then answers, “it’s your decision if you want to tell anyone. This study is fully confidential.” In other words, a study doctor will prescribe contraceptives to an eleven-year-old girl without parental knowledge or consent.


... you can read the entire article at the source link above.



The Kleenex Anti-Viral Facial Tissues. Nice in theory but they are... hmmm... slimy? Slippery? Weird?

This morning I attempted to brew my first cup of coffee, thought it had finished, so I took my mug and went to the desk to open my email.  I heard the coffee maker start to 'pee coffee' again.  Sure enough, I turned to find a huge brown puddle forming all over the side desk where the coffee station is.  

I thought I could live with this as it wasn't happening all that often, but it is now.  I can't brew a cup of coffee without anxiety and babysitting it with plenty of paper towels and a travel mug nearby 'just in case' it decides to spew out every ounce of water in the system and the reservoir.  I really really wish iCoffee wouldn't have closed up shop and disappeared overnight.  A bit suspicious, but I really loved their coffee makers and had I known they were going to do a disappearing act, I would have bought 3 of their machines to keep in storage so I'd never have to buy another Keurig again!


Another product I'm less than thrilled with? The Kleenex Anti-Viral Facial Tissues. Nice in theory but they are... slimy? Slippery? Weird? 

I needed Kleenex tissues a couple weeks ago and my local store only had the anti-viral version stocked.  During this time of Covid-19 hullabaloo you take what you can get, right?  So I did.  And I loved the idea, but they aren't as nice as the non-anti-viral.  They are in two layers; the normal feeling and looking layer along with a second layer that has little light blue dots all over it.  The layer with the anti-viral properties (blue dots) is slippery, so the normal tissue layer doesn't grasp it, but slides.  This means when you try to wipe your nose after blowing, or use a bit of it to clean the nostril, it slips and slides but doesn't actually 'grasp' (?) the offending little buggers you are trying to get out of your nose.  

When I have to sneeze into them, they are great, but I can't usually run and grab a tissue and get it up to my nose in time to sneeze, and typically just sneeze into the crook of my arm at the elbow.  I actually myself more likely to grab and rip off a piece of toilet tissue to use to blow and clean my nose - subconsciously avoiding the slip-n-slide of the anti-viral tissues.  I'm making a point of using them... but I also realized last night that I was pulling the two layers apart and using the regular tissue to avoid the slippery non-grabbing, non-wiping blue dotted anti-viral part.

Interesting.   Not extremely interesting, but meh.  It's just the coffee talking again I suppose.





“Good morning, sunday morning” Wtf?! What is Wrong with Pelosi? It really seems Nancy Pelosi and Joe Biden are both mentally unfit......


The look on Stephanopoulos’s face says it all.

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s wires got crossed Sunday morning during her interview with ABC’s George Stephanopoulos.

During her Sunday morning interview, the Speaker didn’t rule out impeaching President Trump in order to block him from appointing a new Supreme Court Justice.

“But to be clear, you aren’t taking any arrows out of your quiver, you’re not ruling anything out,” Stephanopoulos said.

80-year-old Pelosi suffered from a bizarre episode.

Out of the blue, Pelosi responds, “Good morning — Sunday morning.”

This is not an edited clip. It is directly from the ABC News YouTube channel.



October 12th - And just for the heck of it - because this man screws up EVERY TIME HE OPENS HIS MOUTH... today he announced he was running for Senate.  Again.  


(Screenshot - not a working video)


Nothing but me, a newborn baby and the quiet of nature. And it was good.

The baby is napping so here I am with fresh coffee.  It's glorious outside this morning (although getting uncomfortably warm now) so I spent time on the deck with the baby and just... was.

We heard acorns drop.  Heard squirrels scrambling in the trees.  We found the squirrel and watched him a bit before he scampered down.  We heard a bird tweet.  Tree trunks swayed and crackled in the breeze once in a while.

I didn't think about protests, looting, fires or hurricanes.  I didn't think about the hatred and lies being spewed by biased press.  Uneducated and uninformed celebrities and athletes spouting lies they don't even know are lies didn't even enter my mind.  There was no hate, violence, arguments or name calling.  There was no political fighting or screaming or protesting or stealing and burning down buildings.  No attacks or guns.  No quarantines or masks. The rest of the universe and their issues did not exist.

Nothing but me, a newborn baby and the quiet of nature.

And it was good.







If you enjoy visiting Just the Coffee Talking, please consider using this affiliate link if you are planning to shop for anything (seriously, anything!) at Amazon


Just for the heck of it, I did a search on Amazon for the keywords "MADE IN USA"

Still grappling with my hatred of fighting with the 'new' 2020 blogger editor.  I've always hated the WordPress editor (ALWAYS) so although many are jumping ship to their editor, that one has never been user intuitive to me over the past 20 years so I don't know....  I come here, start posts and get fed-up with Blogger and then leave without posting. 


Yesterday afternoon, just for fun, I did a search on Amazon for "Made in USA" and checked out the results.  Although many were, there were almost just as many Chinese made items that were listed - obviously lying in their product search descriptions.  Some didn't put anything about being made in China or USA in the 'official' product information (just the search keywords) but many are obvious, so I took those products and/or company names and looked them up on the internet only to find, sure enough, completely 100% Chinese crap.   

One item that looked... umm, 'off' and confusing was this one.  A USA made can opener? 

Note the top where the brand name usually is;  "MADE IN USA CAN OPENER"


Then 4 random photos... an American flag, something I can't tell what it is, an old baseball card photo and an ad for NEHI drinks.  And the writing on the bottom again; Made in U.S.A.

Not only is the packaging so incredibly poorly done, the opener is even two different colors. 
One of the Amazon customers posted a photo of the 'back' of the packaging that listed a legit American company name and address.  

So, I took 3 seconds to look the company up.  They do sell can openers.  
They are actually a well known can opener company... but their products (which are found sold in stores around the US) look like this...


Not even close.  
Just for the heck of it, I clicked on the name of the seller to see their product page.  There is another name and address listed - a Russian woman with a random Virginia address that is also the address of a transmission repair shop.  

At this point I just clicked away. I really had no reason to click on the items or check into them, other than the fact that when I saw the awful dark green packaging of the first one, I had doubts it was the Steuby Company product.  I didn't even plan to buy one.  

Just one of those random rabbit holes you fall down on the internet I guess....



Random Chit Chat: Our two cats (we don't actually have any cats)

I saw this little graphic in my files and decided to use it for tonight's 'chit chat' over coffee.  I made all these personal 'me' graphics and put them in my files but it ends up we don't have a pumpkin colored cat any longer - both our cats have passed away now but I still have some 'cat' themed images in my files.  The reason I decided to use it is because it reminded me... we don't actually have cats any longer but apparently we have two cats now.

Regular readers might recall me mentioning a few times that there is a black cat with a white chest that loves to hang out at our house.  Every morning it would be sunning on the rocks in the backyard and every afternoon between 3-4 it would set off the motion alert in the driveway as it walked across and sometimes came up to sun itself on the front steps.

After we installed another camera in the backyard area I found that it likes to visit our deck at night.  It prances and prowls a bit, then jumps up to the deck railing where it sits and hangs out for about an hour.  Sometimes in the morning when I wake, I grab my phone and look back over the night video to make sure our little cat-friend came to visit.  I was NOT happy when he peed/poo'd in my flower/vegetable bed but it only happened the once and so far I've not found evidence of it happening again since (about 2 months or so I think).  But anyway!  This morning I watched last nights video and chuckled a little.  It seems our black cat now has brought a friend to hang out with on our deck.  There was a second cat with him last night!  

Don't know if the second one will hang around or not like the black cat has for about 2 (?) years now but I like it.  Makes me smile.  We have 'cats' without actually having cats.  (They are well cared for and well fed... so they have homes, they just come visiting.) 



black cat shirt -ew people t-shirt

Sorry I can't I have plans with my Cat T-Shirt

funny cat shirt : I do what I want with my cat shirt T-Shirt

“The president has a responsibility to nominate a new justice and the Senate has a responsibility to vote.” - Hillary Clinton (2016)

Here’s What Democrats Said About Filling A Supreme Court Vacancy In 2016


Several Democratic leaders favored a Senate confirmation vote for President Barack Obama’s Supreme Court nominee Judge Merrick Garland in 2016.

Following the death of Justice Antonin Scalia, Obama nominated Garland, who had been the chief judge of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia. However, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell vowed to block a confirmation vote for Garland until after the 2016 presidential election, The Washington Post reported.

“The American people should have a voice in the selection of their next Supreme Court Justice,” McConnell said, according to Politico. “Therefore, this vacancy should not be filled until we have a new president.”

Several Democrats condemned McConnell in the days and weeks following his decision. 

Although Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden favored putting off a confirmation hearing during an election year in 1992 as a senator, Biden supported Garland’s confirmation in 2016 as vice president, according to ABC News. He said there was no supposed “Biden Rule” concerning Supreme Court nominations in an election year.

“Deciding in advance simply to turn your back before the president even names a nominee is not an option the Constitution leaves open,” Biden said, according to Business Insider. “It’s a plain abdication from the Senate’s duty. … [It’s] never occurred before in our history.”

“Elections have consequences,” then-Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton said, according to Politico. “The president has a responsibility to nominate a new justice and the Senate has a responsibility to vote.”

She called McConnell’s decision “outrageous.”

Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer tweeted: “Garland has integrity, a brilliant legal mind & is a perfect fit for [the Supreme Court]. GOP inaction does our country a great disservice.”

And then-House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi tweeted: “Judge Merrick Garland, is a respected jurist who must be given a fair hearing & timely vote.”

Sen. Bernie Sanders, an Independent who caucuses with Democrats, tweeted, “Judge Garland is a strong nominee with decades of experience on the bench. [Obama] has done his job. It’s time for Republicans to do theirs.”

Meanwhile, Sen. Elizabeth Warren tweeted that Republicans must “ditch their extremism” and schedule a vote for Garland.

Then-Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid said the Senate should consider a nominee immediately, according to Politico.

“It would be unprecedented in recent history for the Supreme Court to go a year with a vacant seat,” Reid said, Politico reported. “Failing to fill this vacancy would be a shameful abdication of one of the Senate’s most essential Constitutional responsibilities.”




“Failing to fill this vacancy would be a shameful abdication of one of the Senate’s most essential Constitutional responsibilities.”

- Harry Reid